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Alveia
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|  Subject: For Bill  Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:48 pm | |
| For those who don't know, Bill was in a pretty bad car accident recently, which is why he hasn't been in touch with us. Just thought I'd make this to inform those who were unaware, and wish him a safe recovery.
We love you Bill, hang in there, hope to hear from you soon. | |
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triviate
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:46 pm | |
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Ruyo
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:06 pm | |
| good news I'm alive and I have lots to share | |
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Tyki
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:32 pm | |
| - Ruyo wrote:
- good news I'm alive and I have lots to share
BILLL!!! | |
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Ruyo
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:06 pm | |
| glad to know I was missed  | |
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triviate
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:04 am | |
| glad to hear you're alive! <3 | |
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Cnorris
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:58 am | |
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Ruyo
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:56 am | |
| so I was in a wreck and I didn't have a seat belt on and I was thrown to the passenger floor i didn't get any cut or bruises though from the wreck I was then in a coma for 10 days I couldn't breath on my own and I couldn't eat on my own I got tubes put into my stomach and throat which they took out no very long ago any they left holes the hole in my throat looks crazy hard core I didn't start remembering things until about a week ago. I have a scar on my stomach because when I was in the coma I ripped a tube out the was directly connected to my stomach and they had to cut me open and clean my inside up.
ok, so any questions | |
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Ruyo
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:58 am | |
| oh yeah one of my lungs collapsed after the wreck too, but it fixed itself | |
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Duali
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:22 am | |
| Actually you did the feeding tube after they moved you out of Little Rock and you had waken up a few times. You scared the living shit out of Thomas when you did it too.
They did put you in 4 point restraints with gloves and socks on though to try to prevent you from pulling stuff out during your sleep. They kept you sedated most of the time you were in Little Rock, at the ER they said you were trying to wake up actually.
I'm not sure why they gave you the Trache tube. It helped you talk but I think with a few days of therapy like you had, you would've been talking fine again soon enough without it, and it seemed to really exhaust you having to fight through that thing in order to talk when we were there.
You also had a small army of people at UAMS. We seriously had in the neighborhood of 20+ people just at the ER the night it happened.
I thought your brother was going to tear our house down when he got called. Luckily all I had to do was clean up some blood on the wall where he punched it. | |
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Melstrom
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:26 pm | |
| Glad to hear you are getting better, miss you around here dude... | |
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Sayier
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:12 pm | |
| Damn sounds like you got torn up pretty good by everything but the crash, it's good to hear your doing well now at least. | |
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Ruyo
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:19 pm | |
| yeah I'm back home right now so I don't have my comp with WoW on it or else I'd get on there with you all. | |
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Duali
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:24 pm | |
| - Ruyo wrote:
- yeah I'm back home right now so I don't have my comp with WoW on it or else I'd get on there with you all.
Well if the PTR is any sign of things to come, you're not missing a lot right now, it seems they're murdering Ret because of PvP. (I don't quite get how our burst potential is too high when our dps is low in 3.1 according to Blizz, and we're behind Mages, Rogues, and possibly DKs - gear depending - for burst, but thats Blizz for you.) On the plus side, since we're probably gonna be in a rough spot for the first few weeks of 3.2, when they get it all lined out we should be in a really good place for Icecrown Citadel... If only I could find a job so I could play again...even better would be a job where I could raid on the weekends, but beggars can't be choosers >.> | |
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Aestra
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:39 pm | |
| - Duali wrote:
- Ruyo wrote:
- yeah I'm back home right now so I don't have my comp with WoW on it or else I'd get on there with you all.
Well if the PTR is any sign of things to come, you're not missing a lot right now, it seems they're murdering Ret because of PvP. (I don't quite get how our burst potential is too high when our dps is low in 3.1 according to Blizz, and we're behind Mages, Rogues, and possibly DKs - gear depending - for burst, but thats Blizz for you.)
On the plus side, since we're probably gonna be in a rough spot for the first few weeks of 3.2, when they get it all lined out we should be in a really good place for Icecrown Citadel...
If only I could find a job so I could play again...even better would be a job where I could raid on the weekends, but beggars can't be choosers >.> The problem with ret burst is that it's 'front-loaded,' which means it's there anytime. Rogues inparticular have to build up to their burst. I can't just magic up a 5 point eviscerate on a target  | |
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Tyki
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:49 am | |
| Actually ret dps is getting a buff, it's just multi-target with a bunch of switching where its taking a hit.
And yeah! Go get a job so you can come back ya bastard.
Oh, how are you liking Rurouni Kenshin so far? | |
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Alveia
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:58 am | |
| And DK burst did get nerfed, lots. Oh and, it's great to hear from you Bill!!  | |
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Duali
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:47 pm | |
| Big reply about the game in the spoiler. - Spoiler:
Aestra, I'm not an idiot I know perfectly well how it works. The point is, in overall burst potential, this past season those 3 classes were higher than us, assuming similar gear/skill levels. Ours is front-loaded, but we have a decent downtime period on those attacks because of their cooldowns. We also had the hardest time closing a gap of any melee, so when we were there we had to be able to capitalize. Actually, for that matter, we have less offensive utility than any of those other 3 classes as the cost of our burst being frontload. Yes, you had to give up some of that offensive utility potential to get the burst (stacking combo points, saving RP or controlled rune usage for DK), but its all we had.
DKs get slapped around every patch, I actually feel pretty bad for you on that. You guys have been pretty consistently nerfed since the expansion came out, which is sad really. DKs were good but I felt the degree to which they're good was over exaggerated a lot and that as many of the nerfs were questionable as were legit. (I didn't follow your changes in ptr/3.2 since it was an alt for me and I haven't played in so long anyways, so up to this point.)
Phil, since they made it so that it only procs off auto-swings, its not really a buff anymore unless its stationary single targets because the ramp up time became so long. I'd say its roughly equivalent then, assuming we can stay on that target. If we used faster weapons or it still procced from every attack it'd be different. But with fights that require frequent shifts or shifts where you only have a short duration to do damage to something vital, we lost a /lot/ of burst potential. In Naxx in particular it would be detremental on Gothik, 4 Horsemen, Noth, the first boss of spider wing whose name i can never spell, Sapphiron, and Heigan. Vortex in Maly, and Sarth 2/3 drakes would also be problematic. God only knows what all in Ulduar has frequent changes/pauses that would drop the stack/etc.
It had to be done though, SoBacklash was too problematic and it was under performing according to Blizz in 3.1. In regards to PvP with SoV proccing off everything apparently it was really good if you could stay on your target and restacking was easy if you had to switch. So I mean I really understand why Blizz is trying this out.
It also opens up avenues for some strong PvP utility in the future which they've hinted at.
I think what they're trying to do is a good idea and will be okay with some time, but to try to revamp it that hard during the middle of an expansion with new raid content coming out hurts our raid viability in the short term. If the numbers I've seen coming out of the PTR go live, I wouldn't bring myself to a progression raid.
I think they're on the right path with Holy too, opening it up to some more diverse healing. However, the trade off we took in regen nerfs are so strong for the very limited and many-strings-attached expansion to our healing that I don't think it was a worthwhile trade just yet. But like Ret, with a bit of time I think it'll work out for the better.
Edit: Yeah, thats right, for once I said I think Blizz is on the right path. Mark it on your calendars, because it'll probably never happen again. (not there yet, but on the right path for once)
As for Kenshin I like it well enough, I've watched most of it before, up to where I watched this time, but I've never finished it because the last 1/3 is filler. Thats why I never marked it as completed on MAL and moved it to oh-hold when i finished the real story from the manga again. I think it's a pretty funny show and I like the way they portray the changing culture in Japan at the time. | |
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Sayier
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:39 pm | |
| I have seen some people say that this might be a buff of say 200 DPS on a boss where you're given the time to get stacks up. However, as Nick listed bosses where your given time to get stacks up is pretty limited and in Ulduar more so, I haven't played on PTR so I don't know how long it is to actually get full stacks up but Ignis, Kologran maybe (you would have to be careful but you could probably switch between the right arm and the body and keep stacks up), and most of Vezax (screwed once the animus comes out) are the only bosses that I would think this would come out being an overall buff. I know my gear is absolute shit but I can tell ret needs a bit of buffs, or at least something so my fail macro doesn't end up doing just about equal DPS. For Bill and Nick that macro consisted of something like:
/startattack
/castrandom *insertallretattacks*
It certainly wasn't playing optimally (I noticed crusader's strike off CD a lot) but when I used it the first time I still pulled fourth on the DPS chart for P1 Mim in my nub gear.
Oh ya this topic is about Bill...I hope you can visit us on WoW soon.!
EDIT: IWIN macro:
/startattack
/stopcasting
/castrandom Judgement of wisdom, Hammer of Wrath, Crusader Strike, Divine Storm, Exorcism, Consecration
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Ruyo
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:05 pm | |
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Duali
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:57 pm | |
| I never used attack sequence macros.
also have you tested that macro to see if it resets your swing timer when you use it? I would imagine not, but I'd check it to be sure.
I always did a priority system if multiple items were off CD and otherwise FCFS.
Judgment of X > CS > DS > Conc > Exo generally. Especially fights with add phases. Overall, Conc usually came up to as much or more of my dps than Exo did. With Exo being changed to only be useful post AoW procs, this is even more the case.
With the change to CS, for 3.2 I'd still use that system but switch CS and Judgment, since CS will be faster for one and and Judgment isn't going to be as big of a hitter as before.
I also prioritized Hammer of Wrath over Judgment below 20% because it has a shorter cooldown and hits as hard or harder (or did for me), so hitting it then judgment meant less time until my next one. It clashed with CS a lot though so CS was on CD for an extra GCD a lot, but that GCD was generally a spare in my rotation before DS came back off CD anyways, so it wasn't a loss as long as I kept my rotation tight.
Sayier, if you get to test on the PTR find out how mana holds up without the SoB glyph. It should be fine, SoB was mostly cushion room. I know people said it was bad when CS was dropped to 4s but the mana stayed the same but when they adjusted the mana cost I haven't heard complains since then.
But yeah I'm not a fan of macros personally, especially in movement fights. A lot of times in 3D for instance I'd have to move a few feet and couldn't CS, but I could still hit it with Judgment or DS if they were up, but if CS is priority over DS in your macro it'll keep trying to trigger it most likely and fail because of range, but manually you can trigger it and get that hit in.'
As a ranged I would probably feel a lot better about them, but I never used them when I healed either so who knows, maybe I just like to do everything the hard way. | |
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Alveia
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:52 am | |
| You know that the macro was a joke, right? lol | |
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Sayier
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:14 am | |
| As much as mine was a joke it's sad to think people actually use macros like that to get by. | |
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Duali
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:38 pm | |
| I had hoped it was, but just in case I decided the wall of text crit was in order. Since not only was it his alt but alt's offspec I believe (isn't prot your main pally spec?), it was questionable >.>
And yes, it is sad that some people do basically use that. | |
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Alveia
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| | Subject: Re: For Bill Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:39 pm | |
| Pally isn't his alt anymore, not since we ran out of paladins. He's my co-tank. | |
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